Hey Deep, OK so yes for player one definitely patience is key and I do definitely think being a bit closer to the table against that style is not a problem and will help your returns. Also giving no spin to the pips is great because they can’t generate much spin at all then. So looking for this quick attack combo is the right approach for sure.
The second player it’s important to stay close and actually try to get your attacks in sometimes and counter attack sometimes. This variety will cause them problems and give them a lot of decisions to make. Also taking the backhand blocks early as you mentioned will help avoid them going off for sure. If the loop is weak adding a bit of kick is good too. I’d also say if you can block back and stay close often these two wing loop players struggle more if you can limit the time for their shots and also keep them in the move so they aren’t set in position all the time to play strong. So think about the wide angles and also trying to catch them in the crossover as much as you can.
It sounds like against this 3rd lobbing player that the returns were the main issue and you had some problems in the other matches too. I’d say slowing everything down against a lobber and really focusing on being solid and consistent. Of course that starts with the returns and working on keeping them low in practice, maybe by using more controlled flicks rather than pushing, especially against side spin topspin serves which can easily pop up.
But also in the rallies, waiting for the right ball to really attack and trying not to rush to finish the points is vital. These types of players rely on your mistakes and feed off your pace. So sometimes you can push long and try to make them attack and then catch them on the counter.
Hope this helps!
